Chart Updates (iTunes / Spotify etc)

I truly hope we get something released in May next year. They will have over 800k people going to concerts who will no doubt be on a Spice Girls high before attending a concert and after.

The easiest 2 releases would be a new GH, drop Move over for Step to Me, lose Voodoo for 2019 NGUOTGT and add 2 new 4 piece songs. They have jan/April to nail down 2 great songs shouldn't be too hard.

Also Spice World on vinyl but make a big thing of it maybe even a Sainsburys exclusive for a couple of weeks before a wider release everywhere.
 
I would prefer a studio album with at least 10 tracks. Another GH album seems redundant as their last album release was THE greatest hits. However, I would take anything as long as there's a couple of new songs, like at least two.
 
Spotify Charts of yesterday (22th November 2018):

Ireland:
105 Wannabe by Spice Girls 6,902 plays
164 Spice Up Your Life by Spice Girls 5,111 plays
 

Jay

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This is a bit complicated to explain, but that's to do with the dealer price rather than the retail price.

From my understanding, the dealer price is directly between the record label and stores such as HMV. If the dealer price of the physical album is from 50p and £3.75, then sales of these albums would go towards the Budget Album chart. If it's a higher price than that, then they're eligible for the main album chart.

So stores can sell CDs for cheaper than that (like Greatest Hits being £2.99 in a special deal), but it seems that the dealer price is currently exceeding £3.75, because the physical sales are contributing to the midweeks this week.

I'm not sure about the ins and outs of this, like, I don't know if this means that either the stores or the record label are actually selling these at a slight loss? I'm not sure what business sense there is in that, but I suppose it's not for us to worry about!


Greatest Hits was midweek #52 yesterday! 1,624 sales, including 1,333 CDs, 76 downloads and 215 from streaming.

CD / Download / Streaming weekly sales since the album re-entered the chart:

09/11/2018 - #69 - 146 CDs / 662 Downloads / 890 Streaming = 1,698 sales
16/11/2018 - #25 - 788 CDs / 1,980 Downloads / 2,044 Streaming = 4,812 sales
23/11/2018 - #72 - 504 CDs / 461 Downloads / 977 Streaming = 1,942 sales
30/11/2018 - #81 - 858 CDs / 240 Downloads / 746 Streaming = 1,844 sales

So the fact that Greatest Hits sold 1,333 CDs on Fri/Sat/Sun alone shows that the deal is quite successful! It seems likely that they'll manage over 3,000 CD sales this week. With downloads and streaming, the weekly sale could exceed 4,000!

Btw, the latest sales total for the GH is 545,685. So there's a good chance after this week that the album will be on around 550,000.
 
This is a bit complicated to explain, but that's to do with the dealer price rather than the retail price.

From my understanding, the dealer price is directly between the record label and stores such as HMV. If the dealer price of the physical album is from 50p and £3.75, then sales of these albums would go towards the Budget Album chart. If it's a higher price than that, then they're eligible for the main album chart.

So stores can sell CDs for cheaper than that (like Greatest Hits being £2.99 in a special deal), but it seems that the dealer price is currently exceeding £3.75, because the physical sales are contributing to the midweeks this week.

I'm not sure about the ins and outs of this, like, I don't know if this means that either the stores or the record label are actually selling these at a slight loss? I'm not sure what business sense there is in that, but I suppose it's not for us to worry about!


Greatest Hits was midweek #52 yesterday! 1,624 sales, including 1,333 CDs, 76 downloads and 215 from streaming.

CD / Download / Streaming weekly sales since the album re-entered the chart:

09/11/2018 - #69 - 146 CDs / 662 Downloads / 890 Streaming = 1,698 sales
16/11/2018 - #25 - 788 CDs / 1,980 Downloads / 2,044 Streaming = 4,812 sales
23/11/2018 - #72 - 504 CDs / 461 Downloads / 977 Streaming = 1,942 sales
30/11/2018 - #81 - 858 CDs / 240 Downloads / 746 Streaming = 1,844 sales

So the fact that Greatest Hits sold 1,333 CDs on Fri/Sat/Sun alone shows that the deal is quite successful! It seems likely that they'll manage over 3,000 CD sales this week. With downloads and streaming, the weekly sale could exceed 4,000!

Btw, the latest sales total for the GH is 545,685. So there's a good chance after this week that the album will be on around 550,000.
JAY YOU DA BESTEST BADDEST BITCH thank you for this :love:
 

Jay

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@Jay It would be so interesting to know the updated sales records for the albums and singles. Also information for those of us who don't know much about sales on how these numbers come about. Is it actual sales versus shipments and how downloads/streams play into all of it. <3
Sorry Eric, I overlooked this post!

In the UK, the total sales figures are from actual sales. Made up of a combination of physicals, downloads (since 2004), audio streaming (since 2014) and video streaming (was only included earlier this year - applies to songs only).

Streaming is complicated to explain, but here goes!

There's two types of streaming - premium and ad-funded. For songs, premium streams are converted at a ratio of 100:1, so every 100 streams equals 1 sale. Ad-funded is 600:1, so every 600 streams equals 1 sale. Only ten streams a day from an individual are counted, so if I was to stream Wannabe ten times on Spotify Premium I could contribute 0.1 sales a day, if I did that every day then it would be 0.7 sales a week. If I was using Spotify free, it would be 0.0167 sales a day, 0.1167 sales a week.

It's not easy to work out what an individual can contribute to albums chart, but the methodology of streaming sales for albums is explained here: https://www.officialcharts.com/media/655780/official-uk-album-chart-rules-july-2018.pdf (section "9.0 Album Streams")

When it comes to certifications, prior to July 2013 these were actually based on shipments rather than over-the-counter sales, but since July 2013 it's based on pure sales. That's why, for example, the 'Spice' album is 10xPlatinum (Platinum = 300,000, therefore 10xP indicates shipments of 3,000,000+) but in actuality it's sold less than that (2,963,975 up to November 16th 2018).

I'll post the most up-to-date Spice Girls sales figures in the next post! I don't know the split between the physicals/downloads/streaming for all of them unfortunately.
 

Jay

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2,963,975 - Spice
1,593,889 - Spiceworld
545,685 - Greatest Hits
268,000 - Forever

1,620,850 - Wannabe (1,300,000 physicals & downloads as of 6th Nov 2018)
1,216,000 - 2 Become 1 (1,140,000 physicals & downloads as of 6th Nov 2018)
1,020,000 - Say You'll Be There (965,300 physicals & downloads as of 6th Nov 2018)
973,000 - Spice Up Your Life (890,400 physicals & downloads as of 6th Nov 2018)
910,000 - Goodbye
763,000 - Mama/Who Do You Think You Are
729,000 - Viva Forever
707,000 - Too Much
468,000 - Stop
280,000 - Holler/Let Love Lead The Way
55,000 - Headlines (Friendship Never Ends)

Dates that the above sales were revealed -
30th November 2018: Greatest Hits
16th November 2018: Wannabe, Say You'll Be There, Spice Up Your Life, Too Much, Stop, Viva Forever, Goodbye, Headlines (Friendship Never Ends) | Spice, Spiceworld
6th November 2018: 2 Become 1, Mama/Who Do You Think You Are, Holler/Let Love Lead The Way
31st October 2018: Forever



Note:
Only download & streaming sales of Who Do You Think You Are contributes to Mama/Who Do You Think You Are. Downloads and streams of Mama contribute to Mama as a standalone - 68,000 as of 1st Nov 2018.

Downloads/streams of Holler contribute to Holler/Let Love Lead The Way. Let Love Lead The Way has sold 10,570 copies in its own right as of 1st Nov 2018.


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Singles | Silver = 200,000+ / Gold = 400,000+ / Platinum = 600,000+ (every additional 600,000 sales is another platinum disc)

2xPlatinum - Wannabe
2xPlatinum - 2 Become 1
Platinum - Say You'll Be There
Platinum - Spice Up Your Life
Platinum - Goodbye
Platinum - Mama/Who Do You Think You Are
Platinum - Viva Forever
Platinum - Too Much
Gold - Stop
Silver - Holler/Let Love Lead The Way

Albums | Silver = 60,000+ / Gold = 100,000+ / Platinum = 300,000+ (every additional 300,000 is another platinum disc)

10xPlatinum - Spice (based on shipments, has shipped 3,000,000+, but has sold less than that)
5xPlatinum - Spiceworld (based on shipments, has shipped 1,500,000+ and incidentally it has exceeded that figure in terms of pure sales too)
Platinum - Greatest Hits (based on shipments, has shipped 300,000+ and incidentally it has exceeded that figure in terms of pure sales too)
Platinum - Forever (based on shipments, has shipped 300,000+, but has sold less than that)

Greatest Hits is 54,315 sales away from 2xPlatinum. I think it's likely that Wannabe will certify 3xPlatinum sometime in 2019. Stop has a good chance of becoming Platinum at some point within the next 5 years.
 
It is quite amazing that a group has managed to only get THREE of their releases to not be Platinum. That's quite the achievement (also - JUSTICE FOR FOREVER AND HOLLER!!!).

Interesting how close they are to some sales milestones. I guess GH will probably go Double Platinum next year, along with Wannabe 3x, and I would LOVE To see Spice Up Your Life becoming a million seller next year too - LETS MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
 
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